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October 29, 2020
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Heya guys,

Trying to decide what to do...

My PC is a custom build: WIN7 Pro, AMD A6-3650 APU, Radeon HD Graphics on board w/2.6Gbz, 64 bit, Viper Patriot Memory @ 4G DDR 3.

Is this worth putting any money in? If I buy new, whats recommended, Desktop or laptop? Gaming computer, is it worth it?

Bottom line: I hear pros and cons, will a new comp help with rFactor/SUPRS? Improve lap times? etc...

 

Thanks for any input...

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October 29, 2020
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Gary I sent you 2 messages

October 30, 2020
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Gary,

I think anytime you can improve frame rates with a better/faster vid card and CPU, you are money head. Right now is a tough time to find good deals on any computer and the wait time can be a little longer.

Ultimately, in my opinion, you'll have to bite the bullet and go Win10. I hate the OS, can't stand the constant updates, and despise increasingly harder and longer methods to customize the OS so it does what I want it too. Every update seems to break your sound settings and the new Edge is like bloatware and to me is a P.U.P. and more like jumping off the edge of cliff since you can't delete it or alter it.

BUT...Win10 has become a necessary evil  like Steam.

For rFactor, 4 gigs of memory is a minimum. 8 would be better and with increasing car counts maybe more. With rF2, which at some point will be as much a part of the schedule as Heat and rF1, your gonna need that and more.

I don't think I'd run any of our games anymore with onboard vid.

I'd steer clear of a laptop unless you buy a dedicated gaming laptop, ( you can't beat any of the Razer products), and you're not gonna get one of those that's worth the plastic it's built with for less than $600. PC all the way.

Wire EVERYTHING. Even your headset and mouse, (sorry Rob-I know you like the wireless stuff, but I've seen it fail too many times on race night when the batteries die).

Look at your ISP and their speeds UP and down.

Danny just built a new one based off an iBuyPower that was selling for about $1200. He spent just under $600. It's more than capable of running rFactor full tilt, (shadows, shadow blur, 18 AI cars everything turned up to full), and he's nailing 3-400 FPS. We've not tested it online but that's coming on Sunday and I have no reason to believe it will be any worse.

You can save some money on the case, like Danny did, and do some minor modifications for better cooling, (good, quiet, 140mm, quality fans are less than $30 on Amazon), you don't need any RGB lights on fans or the chassis.

You do need a solid power supply so you don't bottle neck the components-probably 450 WATT minimum. Put in some RAM from a reputable company, go with an SSD hard drive, make sure you keep it clean and cool, avoid adding a ton of software that you don't need or doesn't pertain to racing, use your race rig as your race rig and not your daily web surfing and word processing, don't skimp on the CPU, GPU, and remember you always get what you pay for.

In the end-Yes a newer system should help your frame rates, which in turn should help your draw distance, make the games seem more smooth, and make for a better experience including lap times.

Here's a couple of links to make sure you know what the minimum specs are as well as recommended specs for our games, some basic gaming tips that could help the system you have now, and a good vid on some different builds that range from $300 to $2000:

https://suprs.net/site/about/faq/#computerspecsfaq

https://suprs.net/site/rulesleague-info/.....RacingTips

https://lytetechnology.com/shop/

November 3, 2020
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Well, in my opinion you shouldn't buy pre-builts. If you have enough tech knowledge you should build your own. Here are a few reasons you should avoid anything pre-built:

It can get damaged in shipping - the way most people ship their pre-builts are not in a good box and things can move around in your case if they are not tightened all the way. 

Save money - Building your own computer can be a lot cheaper since you don't have to pay for building costs 

Here are some links to a YouTube video and a build that I would recommend that is under $1000 and could most likely catch some sales going into next month and holidays 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J6NWQq

The playlist below is a monthly build playlist pick any of the ones from the playlist that fit your budget.

 
Here is a quick video on if don't know how to build your own you can watch this video and you can follow along
 
 
 
rFactor and NASCAR Heat are not very high intensive games and could let probably run a patao with a cpu and a 2GB stick of ram.
 
In all honesty if you are only looking to race NASCAR Heat and rFactor you don't even need to spend $500+ on a computer a decent desktop with a monitor and a wheel would pretty much do the job. 
 
 
Now onto something other than building a computer and spending money. Lap times will not improve with a new computer it doesn't make you better at the game or anything. If you are looking to get better lap times I would suggest just to practice practice and practice. Practice offline with the race time and build your setup from there. Let me say that again A NEW COMPUTER DOES NOT MAKE YOU QUICKER ON TRACK PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT. Unless you are under 60 FPS(frame per second) there is not a computer problem. 
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Thanks for all the info. I will study it and at least learn from it!

 

Thanks again! See ya Tuesday. 👀

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Here are some builds that I would recommend I don't know your budget but both of these will run anything you want to play/run and won't even have to worry about any bogging of the computer. I have put the prices above the links so you know what the price will be before even clicking on the link. 

 

I have added a SSD and a HDD to both systems so you can put your OS(Operating system) on the 500GB SSD so programs and boot speeds will be faster. I would also like to add these prices below can change at any given time since new CPUs and GPUs are coming out. Some prices may rise and some may fall depending on the stock of the product. Power supply's are going quick are on a very short stock right now if you can get one I would suggest you get one quick.  

 

$1138.86 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FVfv3Z

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In this system you really do not need the 3600X I would go with a normal Ryzen 5 3600

You really don't need 32 GBs of RAM/Memory

 

$857.92

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4wDqmk

Personal Notes:

This is pretty much the same exact system I am in the process of buying besides I am getting a 1070 which I am purchasing from someone. 

I personally got the AMD Ryzen 3600X since I found one at the same price as the 3600 so I just bought that and pretty much I would call that a "free" upgrade.  

 

$701.93

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yxNcbh

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Nothing really to add to this system. Most of it is pretty basic if you ask me. 

 

Like I said in my last post. Most computers now a days will play rFactor and NASCAR Heat fine. I have had rFactor running on 2GBs(Not just the game the computer had 2GB) of RAM on a little HP Notebook. These games do not put very much stress on your computer and never really will. With any "modern" computer.   

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